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So Link has made me a developer now... Anyhow, I've just installed a new release on the server. The only "new" feature is that I've brought back the level-based spell names--as you practice a spell and become more proficient at casting it, the name of the spell will change. Other than that, this release is mainly a bit of a code clean-up; hopefully it will be less likely to crash now.

I play from time to time, and its always a nice surprise to see an other player, though it only seems to be me, slider coop and halfsieze, we are oldies now so only play once in a while. brings us back happy memories when the was at least 30 on any day.

If you guys are interested, Ted created the game in hissenior year of high school on a HP 2000 (basic language) utilized by all thehigh schools. His version was a cloned game that existed at harper college andevery rival school. There was always a different flavor to each one, space,d&d, war, and token. I have tried one of the clone games here, and it reminds ofthe game he wrote 30 years ago. It seems to have been stripped down because therewas a lot more to the game, it seems to have been lost in translation to Unix. Ohhhh that college was Harper in Illinois and Ted went to Palatinehigh school. The competition in games was always between Hoffman Estates, Schaumburg,William Fremd High, and Palatine. The games useto handle up to 32 players. We all talked to each other during that time andplayed each other’s games. Its nice to see you guyshave continued operating the game and working together. Found you by total accident and happy for it!

Hi there! I'm Tantalus. I've decided to make a quest guide for those who have realized that Rise of Warriors is the best version of Phantasia that there is. In order to access the Undying Lands and truly bring your character to its full potential, you must complete all these quests in their entirety. Luckily for you, this crazy bastard is here to spell it out for you in black and white, AND I'll even tell you when to do each one! WHOA! I know right?! The first quest centers are at (1000, 1000) and (-1000, -1000). For quests 1-16 you have to go to the quest center and accept the quest, and then return once you've done it to turn it in. You can only have one assigned quest at a time. #Quest NameQuest GuideReward1Pizza RescueTravel to Size 8 Moor's Adventurous (690, 690) and rest until a Dwarf gives you a pizzaNothing2Healer's FeudKill Treasure Type 8 Monsters for Athelas (86-93)5 Levels3Friendly PersuasionBring a Virgin to the quest center. The best way to get virgins is to fight in the Dead Marshes, only a handful of monsters are able to show up here, and a good chunk of them drop Virgins.All your poison is cured.4Orc HuntingKill 50 orcs.This can be done anywhere, I suggest the Outer Waste, and use pick scrolls on Orcs (43)Fishing Rod5Blind ManGet poisoned (rest against spiders with no charms) and then rest until a medic shows up, he will then go to the Quest CenterBlessing6Self-Absorbed CollectorBring a Gem, a Palantir, and a Ring of Power to the Quest Center. The Palantir drops from Saruman (94), the Ring from Nazguls (95), and the Gem from any number of monsters. The items for this quest will be collected while doing other questsYour Magic Level is TRIPLED7Help the TaxFight Saruman (94) for a Gandalf FIRST, then fight Treasure Type 8 for a Merlyn (86-93), and then fight Treasure Type 6 monsters (70-77) for Treebeard. I recommend Morannon+ for this quest150k gold BEWARE GREED8Help the Evil SaiyanGo to size 63 Morannon (5500, 5500) and rest until you have 2 senzu beansYour Strength is DOUBLED9Bead CollectorGo to size 239 Kennaquahir (21,100, 21,100) and rest until you have 10 beadsYour Energy is DOUBLED10Miner PursuitGo to the Mines of Moria (910, 910) and rest until you have 15 Mithril PlatesPickaxe11Charming PersonalityBring 100 charms to the Quest CenterYour Brains are TRIPLED12Keen GenerosityBring 1,000 gems and 300,000 to the Quest CenterAll your sin is cleansed13Galadriel's GiftFight Treasure Type 8 monsters for Merlin (86-93)You gain 3 speed14Cook's AssistantFight Treasure Type 6 monsters for Treebeard (70-77) You need 315 Gems15Never DiplomacyFight Treasure Type 7 monsters to get 2 Hercules (13, 78-85). This is best done in Dead Marshes due to the rate at which you encounter Aspidchelones. You can do this in Plateau or Morannon to get it done faster but be careful not to over level yourself. Then travel to Rohan (-50, 50) and rest until you kill a guard, and do the same in Gondor (-150, -150)5 Gems and 10 Charms16Fisher's FollyKill Treasure Type 7 monsters to get Aes Sedai once (13, 78-85). Then go to Dead Marshes and rest until the vials are filled. This entire quest is best done in the Dead Marshes due to the rate at which you encounter Aspidchelone. You can do this in Plateau or Morannon to get it done faster but be careful not to over level yourself 5 Gems17Treasure TroveFind the Treasure Trove18One Ring DestructionGet the One Ring from The Dark Lord, then travel to the Cracks of Doom (2464, 2464). Fight monsters here until a pool emerges, and throw the ring in. Make sure you have no sin.19The Holy GrailAfter level 3,000, use your newly-gained Seek Grail power to find the Holy Grail20The Council TroveAfter level 3,000, fight Morgoth (15) to get hints and find the Council Trove Now that you know what the quests are, I'll tell you what order you should do them in, because once you are of a certain level, and especially when you have a title (not Steward or Knight though), they're impossible to complete. Now when you start your character, as soon as you are able start looking for the trove for quest 17. This is the first thing you ever want to do anyway. If you hit level 30 whilst looking, then pick up the appropriate quest. For example, if you are in size 8 Moors Adventurous and you're close to the trove, grab Quest 1, if you're in the Mines of Moria, grab Quest 10. As soon as you hit 30, it is imperative that you do quest 10 immediately! Once that is done, do quest 1 quickly. You should be MORE than ready for low marshes by now, so do quests 16, and then 15. Now is a good time to do quest 5, as you haven't been stockpiling charms yet, so go ahead and get that out of the way. You probably also have a virgin in the chamber, so hand in quest 3. Congratulations, the low level "deadline" quests are done for now, so go on and do quest 4, then 2, and then pick up quest 7 before you go and start your Morannon grind. Be VERY careful when handing this in. Buy your shield/charms with all your gems prior to handing this in, because if you go to 0 speed you have to drop all your gold and gems. Once that is done you most likely have the items for 6 so hand that in. Time for another deadline quest, number 8. You should be MORE than powerful enough for this by now, so go ahead and do that, and if your race is anything that has decent melee, congratulations on becoming overpowered as hell. The last deadline quest is 9, I find it's best to do this at 200-300 or even SOONER if you're able, with all those boosts from quest turn ins you should be fine, unless you're an Archer or something, if so then what is wrong with you? Go ahead and do 13 and 14 now, they should be easy. Then just hand in 11 and 12 when you have the items to SPARE. When 1000 gems/100 charms is barely anything to you (meaning you already have a ton of charms, a 1million+ shield, and a 10k+ sword if you're a melee). Around level 400-500 start picking 103 (The Dark Lord) in your pick scrolls to search for The One Ring. You will most likely get it before 1,000. You can very well complete the quest 18 before 1,000 but I suggest waiting until 1,000 so you get a crown in return. BEWARE SMEAGOL. This little shit will stop at nothing to steal your ring. DO NOT let him have a single turn on you, EVER, not even paralyzed. You can now take a nice breather until level 3,000. After 3,000 I recommend doing quest 20 BEFORE doing quest 19, especially once the bug is fixed because you want that wand to be able to continue killing Morgoth for eternity. After you find the Wand and the Grail you've done all the quests, so go to the quest center and you will get a backpack with a key to open the box. Select check box to get your Writ, and you can officially enter the Undying lands. The Undying Lands is rough, I suggest being able to handle at least size 10,000 before you go there, as everything works in increments of 5,000 there and The Immortal Lord isn't killed by charms as far as I know, so evade that bastard until you can melee him (yes, Hercules is a freaking GOD in the Undying Lands). Size 1 = Size 5,000, Size 2 = Size 10,000. Don't forget you have the Wand, so you can spam that 8 key for an INFINITE shield/strength/speed increase on tougher things at first, while you get your footing in the Undying Lands. Best of luck on your journey!

I am going to forgo having Phantasia5 be the next recipient of the HTML5 client for a little while longer We need to run more testing and I would feel safer if the client was tested on another clone first. So Rise of Warriors will have a client in HTML5 that matches the java client soon. Keep your eyes peeled.

Met a couple through my work and we got into a discussion about Dungeons and Dragons. Before I had quit, they had mentioned that they were going to sell their 3.5 books. I managed to get ahold of them in time to buy them. Here is my collection now. It also includes the 4th edition core rulebook set, another Players handbook, and 3 Dungeon Master screens. Woot. I would like to start collecting miniatures. I think it would be cool to have a miniature for every monster in the D&D Universe ( multiples of some), yet it would be very expensive and space consuming. Maybe someday!

Here is a picture from my phone taken of my ipad playing the html5 client lol

Heres a picture from the beginning of the project.

Great Idea! @Wrecquiem When I imagine it on the phone it could run seamlessly. Just smokin' hot gameplay from 4g LTE universe. When I go hiking I could be battling flocks of Orcs in the foothills of the Twin Cities' Suburbs. I wonder what expenses making this a reality would be. Should we get a kickstarter going?

Hello guys. I joined a little while back invited by Pallando. I am completely clueless about the past and current games and I am still getting familiar with things. Another thing I need to get familiar with is the terminology, like the clones and stuff. I am sure as intimidating as it can be I will get the hold of it with as I get involved in the community. For now my biggest doubt is regarding the clone Realms and Phatasia 4. I can imagine the clone realms part from P4, but are they going parallel or are they a 'tweak' you install on top of the p4 copy? I apologise for the highly ignorant question. I have been trying to read around but I can't figure it out. It sounds like a very interesting series of projects with a lot of history. How long has it be going? What's your story? If you already have a thread like that feel free to link me, I am sure you guys probably don't want to be repeating yourself, just know that if you are I am more than happy to listen, haha. Anyway, do you guys meet at certain times or do you just pretty much do your thing? Again sorry if I am being ignorant. I am sure in the future I'll reread this thread and feel embarrassed. Hahah.

Everything in this game has the possibility of being cursed. Gold, gems, treasure, you name it. Virgins should be no exception. When taking the evil route, there should be a chance of catching Ye Olde Chlamydia. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

A few changes since I last posted: * Fixed equipment upgrades from store quests: if a message is given that the player's shield, sword, or quicksilver are upgraded, then they are always improved by at least one point. * Hobbits and mages now have their original names again: halfling and magic-user, respectively. * Fixed several crashes.

Not sure that it is 100% done, but I've written a ncurses client. There are things I'd like to add to it (playing sounds for certain things and auto-rerolling stats); I've actually done the former but haven't taken the time to do it in a way that won't just work on my computer, so haven't pushed that yet. https://github.com/mgorse/phantcli

I actually had started working on this awhile ago, but have been busy with some other commitments lately and haven't had time to work on it more. I think its definitely possible, there are just a few UX/UI elements that need some thinking through.

This is fixed in 5.1.6

We know this, and it will be fixed. Corona has us all out of our minds atm LOL. Thanks for your input

: ( plz give us our p4 fix : (

The odds are dramatically low. It was exploited in the past to have it keep scrambling your stats so you left with high speed, strength and health before it did anything negative to your stats. If I recall correctly, it was like a 1% chance or something like that. Those with the source code can correct me if I'm wrong.

TantalusF has Apprentice. Congratulations.

Good Job, Tantalus. What is your account name on RoW?

What browser you using? It opens in a new window so make sure you do not have a popup window blocker. I recommend either using Internet Explorer (Not Firefox, Chrome or Microsoft Edge as they block the client since they do not support java) Or PaleMoon browser. Private message me if you have a problem

Hadn't played in a few years due to problems running java applets in modern browsers. Managed to get P4 going tonight and I'm just reminded how much I love this game. I wish there were a modern game (other than MAYBE dark souls, which is my favorite modern franchise for a reason) that captured the general vibe of this gameplay

I just managed to get it running on windows 10, after having that same old itch. What I did was to add the "play" page to my java exception url list. (and the p4 home page just in case as well) Then I downloaded the "IE tab" extension for google chrome. Opened p4, told the extension to open in an IE tab, and ran the game. I just had to tell java it was okay multiple times, but its running for me now. Good luck

I get on every now and then, usually start 1 or 20 mages before giving up lol Lol, I feel that all the way. Just lost my 100-something mage to an Ungol. Haha

I get on every now and then, usually start 1 or 20 mages before giving up lol

Wondering if it would be possible to coordinate a game night, try to get everyone on one a week or bi-weekly for a few hours in the evening. Would be great, maybe do some PK Tourney's or Trove Hunts...Any other ideas welcome. In any case; the more the merrier. Vote for as many days as you want, everyone has seven votes.

You are aware the real version is at P5.com, that all was happening while we are Alphaing the new client What I think is happening because I have read the hack logs. The dialog boxes are faster at coming with this client and everyone is speedtyping, I cannot tell you how many times I have messed up passwords, but if I get it wrong a 3rd time. I slow down and confirm I know it. That is 95 percent of the hacklog is improper passwords. The fact that people wont return due to this Alpha stage problem. When the real game doesnt have this problem. It is like comparing Athelas and Pipeweed(pun intended). I olny intend on smoking one, the other heals you. Vanilla Phantasia4 is another monster. Anything could kill you. You could be a level 1000 and they a 400, anything could happen. Later P4/Early P5 is different. The wizards of old and new went and fixed almost all of the problems people had. The only real problem P5 had left was the client. Via testing this new one and getting as much feedback as possible we can improve upon this client. Make things better for the future of Phantasia.

I was paying for a vps with cpanel for months not being used. Would rather have P5 on its dedi by itself, and have the clones on the VPS

I'm not sure if anyone else will run in to any roadblocks when initially trying to load/run the game on MAC OS X, but i figured i would post a quick little guide for the three steps required for setting Java permissions. STEP ONE: Make sure you have the latest version on Java installed, Here. STEP TWO: From system preferences open up your java control panel, APPLE ICON>SYSTEM PREFERENCES>JAVA. Access the SECURITY tab, and add the client URL to the permissions list. Once added a prompt will inform you that adding HTTP url's is unsafe, add the url anyway. http://i63.tinypic.com/2h3o3za.png STEP THREE: Now open up SAFARI, and open preferences. Once open, access the SECURITY tab. Uncheck the box that reads "Block Pop-Up Windows", make sure both "Enable JavaScript" and "Allow Plug-Ins" Box's ARE CHECKED, and click "Plug-In Settings" button. Once open you will see the Phantasia5 url in the list, to the right is a drop down menu that should be set to ALLOW, click the drop down menu and select RUN IN UNSAFE MODE. This will allow the P5 Java Applet to load. http://i63.tinypic.com/2vlqmip.png You should now be able to load and run the P5 client with your safari browser. Let me know if you have any trouble or questions. Also MODS, feel free to delete/move/sticky this as you see fit.

Figured i would piggy-back on this thread instead of starting my own! I always gravitate back to this game every few years, glad to see perhaps the MOST stable revival happening. I was playing this game back in 2002 on a dialup brick in my grandparents basement. I was probably twelve years old at the time. Heavy nostalgia. Most commonly used usernames that i can remember are: Icelore, Strider, Ratsrik. In any case, thanks for getting this up and running. See you all in-game.

5000, 5000 should be a real estate center to buy and upgrade houses. To store items for your characters. Be wary people can raid and rob your house though.

To Rise of Warriors I go!

Impressive, nice guide! Are there any plans to integrate these cool features from RoW to P5?

I will look into it

1. Experience Bar 2. How many thousands of hours have we spent playing P4? How many times have we gotten Valar on every race in P4? New races! 3. Gems are worth 5,000 each. Ever have a 10,000,000 sword at level 7000? 4. Undying Lands (pultimate's Evo Realm) where monsters are stronger and Hercules is even more sexy than he was before 5. Bears (shh)

Probably the most upbeat way to accidentally rape a virgin and pillage her village too I think I just found a new P4 quote for the webpage. lol

And imagine. If you just donated to RoW $15.00, you could be an RoW member, with your own email, intro message and new races :p

So me and a buddy have decided to throwback and play some phantasia. We've played the absolute HELL out of all the races in vanilla P4 so we're checking out Rise of Warriors and had a few questions. Does shoot arrows (archer) work like it did in pultimate back in the day? What about super saiyan? What does freeze (ent), pray (vampire), etc do for all the races? Hylian and Spellsword, not sure how to play these, we ended up playing Hylian like a Halfling, and Spellsword like a magic user that could throw down somewhat, what are your thoughts? and finally There are rock trolls, half elves and whatnot in the high scores but we cant find these races in the character creation, how do we go about making these characters to test them out? Bonus question: this is the only clone we could get to work, any idea when the others will be up? (terrorknight if you have it would be nice that was a SUPER laid back one)

@Tantalus we are in the development of a Phantasia HTML5 client. So no more java. That means they will be accessible from any browser....That means mobile browsers too. Keep you eyes peeled.

Ohhh. Or just the wandering dwarven merchant maybe. So you can browse wares or attack. Make him boss-like so there's a risk for doing it.

Nice Zap! I definitely think this game could adapt to phones. My suggestion in regards to the chat - I think it would be helpful to have a little chat preview(1-2 lines) at the bottom of the screen so that people would be able to see when a new chat message was posted. When clicked on, it would expand to the chat screen that you have indicated.

I was thinking it would be cool if there could somehow be a way to attack things with a bow and arrow. I can't think of any way that would really work with this system unless you could shoot an arrow into a square and hopefully hit something? I think it would create an imbalance in PvP.. but the idea of someone going around PKing other players like a sniper is hilarious. You'd have to constantly try and jump on their square as they're running around frantically trying to take pot shots at you. Just a thought.

Thanks for the welcome. Do you think the game will resurface in terms of popularity?

You are welcome here, just be in mind that this Phorum is for a text-based java game. Which was very promising back in the early 2000s, not so much now adays with xbox's and pc games.

I have updated my name from Link to Pallando. Pallando will be my primary name on Phantasia4. I will still use Link, but....

I purchased a different style of forum software called Burning Board. Going to test it here. You should have noticed a difference.

Wow! This is really cool!

game hardly uses any memory. It could support hundreds theoretically....... A smart phone application would be awesome but I am not a phone developer.

Hello Everyone! I am a returning player of about 10 years since I stopped playing consistently. I hope to explore the world of Phantasia4 with you all. I have only focused on leveling up Fighters, and my strategies may be outdated but, could work nonetheless. I like to help others when I get the chance, so please feel free to send me a message if you want someone to play with, or if you want to ask me a question. Happy Hunting Edit: 11/15/2015 If you want/need assistance you can always contact me via email.